Hillary Clinton has lost again, and this time she can't blame the Electoral College. In an episode of her upcoming Apple TV+ series Gutsy, the former secretary of state faces off with the most powerful woman on earth (Kim “no one wants to work anymore” Kardashian) in a general legal knowledge quiz, and Kim roundly trounces Hil.
As you hopefully know, before becoming first lady, Clinton was a successful lawyer, even a partner at her firm, and Kardashian is currently studying for the bar. Which, according to the former senator, gave the reality star an edge. “I think Kim has an unfair advantage,” Clinton says in the episode, which was previewed by People. “Kim has studied more recently than you,” says her daughter and cohost Chelsea. The final score ends up being 11 to Kim (who, yes, voted for her), 4 to Hil. Yikes, I'm having 2016 flashbacks.
“We didn't interview her about fashion [or] her personal life,” Hillary Clinton told People of the episode, one of eight in the series, which premieres on September 9. “We interviewed about what she was doing to help get people who were unjustly or unfairly incarcerated have a second chance.” Added Chelsea, “She's very self-aware that her celebrity can make a difference positively, and where it may make a negative difference. She never wants to make a negative difference, so being judicious and thoughtful about when and where and how she engages was really impressive to us. I want, even beyond this series, to do whatever I can to help her in that work.”
Gutsy will also feature interviews with inspiring women like Dr. Jane Goodall, Gloria Steinem, Wanda Sykes, and more. Check out the first trailer, here:
However you feel about the Clintons, you have to admit that going on a road trip with your mom to interview celebrities sounds pretty fun.